A big thanks to one of my fellow HotCouponWorld moderators for drawing my attention to this.
There is new and more restrictive wording on some coupons that have come out recently. For example, the recent $1 PomWonderful coupons state something to the effect of “may not be used during any store sale or promotion.” There is a Post cereal coupon coming out tomorrow, and it tells you “Only 4 of the same item may be purchased at one time.” (wording may not be exact, but that’s the gist)
Ok, soooooo much wrong with this, I don’t know where to begin. It’s just sooooo stupid on the part of the marketing people, I can’t wrap my brain around it. First, I’ll vent about Post.
The number of people who get multiple inserts is a small percentage of all couponers. Very few shoppers are going to have numerous coupons for the same item like supercouponers do. Most couponers that I’ve encountered get one or two of the same coupon. They get one paper delivered, maybe ask their neighbor or in-laws, and that’s it. And they are very proud to tell you that they saved $5 or $10 on their grocery order, even if they are not a supercouponer. If you print coupons, you get two per computer usually, so maybe you get two or four if you have a laptop and a desktop.
Four coupons, woo hoo, color me rich. Right.
But here’s the thing–there’s an overlapping national Catalina offer that requires you to buy five boxes of Post cereal to get the catalina. So technically you can’t overlap or stack the deals. Moreover, they’re stupid enough to limit you to how many of their very own product you can buy? “I can only buy 4 Post? Ok, no problem, I’ll buy 6 Kellogg’s instead.” I don’t do big shops every week and my family eats a ton of food. We honestly go through 2-3 boxes of cereal a week, and about 5 gallons of milk. Do you want me to buy your 5 gallons or your competitors’?
The Pom coupon–says it cannot be used during a store promotion or sale. If you’ve been following me for a while you know, the key to saving money with coupons is all about stacking deals. You have a coupon–great. But stack it with a store sale, a catalina offer, a mail in rebate or who knows what else–to maximize your savings. So clearly we have at least two manufacturers that are trying to prohibit deal stacking. But what else are they prohibiting?
As another deal blogger also pointed out, some of the Nexcare coupons say “may use one coupon per day.”
I’m dating myself with this phrase………..but stop the insanity!
Because, let’s just take a moment and think. At the very least, this is what we are asking store cashiers to do–in addition to their other duties.
- Read the fine print on each and every coupon.
- Either memorize or read through a sales flyer for each order, so that they will know every single item that’s on sale. And quickly be able to do mental matchups on your order, so that you don’t sneak a buck from Pom.
- Not only scan your order, but keep a mental count of how many you buy of each item, because apparently you can’t buy more than 4 boxes of Post now or two boxes of Nexcare bandages.
Big picture, here, am I the only one who sees it? You’re being ridiculous. Extreme Couponing is just a fad, it will fade as soon as the TV show does. We are not bankrupting your company. Wasting company hours and resources on efforts such as this–that’s where I’d start looking to make some cuts. If you don’t want us to stack deals, then don’t run them at the same time. Run your promos at the stores and don’t put out a coupon during that time period. If you don’t want it to happen, don’t put it on the backs of store personnel to track this nonsense. How are you even going to know, when coupons are turned in for redemption….when they were used and if they were used during a promotion?
Because here’s the thing: The only reason I go to my neighborhood grocery stores, none of which (to my knowledge) are publicly owned is this–They have good deals. They double my coupons. They let me use coupons with sales and catalina offers and rebates and whatever else is going on.
And guess what? If I can’t do that because you’re being silly……….guess where I’m going to shop? What store never has sales, never has catalina offers, doesn’t double coupons or often have other promotions…….but has consistently low prices? Walmart. (Edited to add: One of my readers reminded me of the price-matching that Walmart does, and another said that hers will do doubles whenever Kmart does.)
And I hate Walmart. I purposely avoid posting about them. I loathe their corporate policies and their business model and I hate what they have done to change the face of American business. But if it comes down to it, I’m going to have to shop where it’s the cheapest. And my neighborhood grocery store is not the cheapest. I like their meats better, I like the people better and I like that I am supporting local people, and both my Giant and my Acme regularly hire people with disabilities, which you all know scores big points with me. But their milk is $1.50 more per gallon than I can get at Walmart. Everything is more. And my deal stacking and coupons help me close that gap, make it doable.
Now, as a supercouponer, I make up a very small percentage of the store’s business. But I spend thousands there every year. If ten of us leave, that’s a big hit. A much bigger hit than you’re taking on my coupons. Think about it. And speak up. Tell your corporate office, they work with the manufacturers. And couponers, if you see a ridiculous coupon, email the company. Send them this post, just jot down a few lines, it only takes a few minutes and we need to push back on this. Because the food prices are going up, coupon values are going down and becoming more restrictive.
Ok, it’s getting late, I want to go to bed. But I do think this is more extreme backlash from Extreme Couponing. That link will take you to other op/ed pieces I’ve done about it.
Couponing isn’t even fun anymore, is it?
I give up. I may as well just go cheap and make my own stuff all the time.. Forget the manufacturers and their “convenience food” all together. I will buy bulk from a small business owner and be completely happy to negate the corporations who want to provide cheap food at a hefty price tag. Also realize though, that if you buy the same product at WalMart they still win.
Plus, what does it change? Extremem Couponing will still show people who get around all those rules. It will change nothing besides hurt the people who use coupons to survive.
I totally agree with you. Its not fun at all and at times more trouble then its worth. Its not bad wnough we get labeled hoarders, brats whatever doesnt matter that coupons are the inly reason my family eats. I had to stop using a binder because I was tired if the comments people made infront of my kids. And let me telk you have you experianced the im well off but were a coupon group yet? I flipped out on them for cleaning shelves in walmart ugh sorry so annoying glad someone else sees what I see and the companies….oi vey
While I share your passion and frustration at the “stupid” coupons, the ones that seem to only work on a black eye as a result of a stampede of wild elephants running through the house between 3:55 and 4 PM on the Fourth of July, during a hailstorm…(an old looney tunes joke) but seriously the limit of 4 per transaction or 4 per customer per day or whatever else they come up with…seriously I had a transaction ruined by a bunch of $5 catalinas that said for “school supplies” on it and I forgot to grab a $0.88 pack of pens so I could use them…..but the issue here is the companies that print the coupons can make them for whatever they want, and you need to be “grateful” that they are releasing coupons at all…you CAN suggest to a company that their piddly $0.25/4 coupon isn’t going to get you to buy their product this week but that a $0.75/1 would make you choose them over the competition, but in the end, it is up to them…And I think few companies will change, some may send you some extra coupons tho so it cant hurt..
And youre absolutely right there is only a SMALL portion of the population that EXTREME coupons, there are many more that use coupons, but not to the extent that we do, and even many that attempt extreme couponing, either cant figure it out, or cant maintain it, and give up…
As far as Walmart, it is a great place to use HIGH value coupons due to their current coupon policy of overages….just sayin
I do agree the extra limitations make things more complicated, but there are often ways around it, like using a printable to give you that 5th and or 6th coupon…its not like they wont let you buy the extra items, and printables are not the same coupon as the insert coupon so there arent more than the 4 “LIKE” coupons :)
Yeah, but it’s gotten so complicated that it’s barely worth the effort. I don’t want one more “extra effort” whether that be finding a printable (when I already have the coupons I need from inserts) or choosing a different variety of cereal (when I may not like it as much). I am not “grateful” that they are releasing coupons, I am the customer. If they make it too difficult for me to buy their product at a reasonable price, I won’t buy it, end of story.
If they are going to be this restrictive with coupons, then they’d might as well just use that page on the insert that they are buying to do an ad, in hopes of increasing brand recognition, instead of a coupon. Because coupons are supposedly a measure of influence–have they motivated us to buy. And these certainly are not!
They have GOT to be kidding! I can see it now, the hold up in lines at the store will be insane! It is bad enough now when you get someone who decides they won’t buy something when their coupon won’t go thru for something like they missed the expiration date so they have to dig thru their entire order to pull out the item and subtract it off–now cashiers have to be ‘small print police’ too? Personally can count on 1 hand the number of times I have ever bought anything other than drugs (hmm…that doesn’t sound too good but basically their pharmacy prices can’t be beat) in Walmart. I don’t like the way they come in and half the town goes out of business because they will lower their prices just enough to push their competition out of business. I also don’t like the way they treat women. Since my kids grew up and moved out I use fewer and fewer coupons (we no longer go thru cereal etc. the way we used to) but I still clip them (just in case). But it is a lot of work. I’ll probably just stop buying from companies that have restrictions like this on them. I do speak w/my pocketbook–but will also post on facebook pages etc when I find a coupon and don’t use it. I think if we all posted everytime we don’t use one of their coupons they might get the hint–“Bought six boxes of Kelloggs today due to your restrictive coupon policies, sorry, I would have bought six of yours except…your coupon policy is restrictive.” or something like that. Will be interesting to see what happens as this moves forward.
Sadly I think extreme couponers really have just ruined coupon usage for the rest of us. I don’t blame the manufacturer’s, just those that have abused the system. Believe it or not I cut back my use of coupons and have started to buy store brands only, its become less of a headache for me. Even braving the long lines at Walmart is worth the savings sometimes.
How about Susan Powter, Powder … something like that. I do remember her – hyper & humor (with logic). Ah, the memories!